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Two Sad an Interesting Stories From When I Hosted the Ex-Jehovah's Witness Meetup Group in Portland
by new boy infor many years i hosted the ex-jehovah’s witness meet up group in portland oregon.
i heard a lot of sad stories about what people had lost trying to get away from the jehovah’s witnesses.
there were whole families that were wiped out.
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Two Sad an Interesting Stories From When I Hosted the Ex-Jehovah's Witness Meetup Group in Portland
by new boy infor many years i hosted the ex-jehovah’s witness meet up group in portland oregon.
i heard a lot of sad stories about what people had lost trying to get away from the jehovah’s witnesses.
there were whole families that were wiped out.
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new boy
Who knows maybe that is why he gave up the fight.
The book will be in soft cover and on Ebooks. The book will be on Amazon. It will be my whole strange story of my 50 year saga of being a JW
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Two Sad an Interesting Stories From When I Hosted the Ex-Jehovah's Witness Meetup Group in Portland
by new boy infor many years i hosted the ex-jehovah’s witness meet up group in portland oregon.
i heard a lot of sad stories about what people had lost trying to get away from the jehovah’s witnesses.
there were whole families that were wiped out.
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new boy
For many years I hosted the ex-Jehovah’s Witness meet up group in Portland Oregon. I heard a lot of sad stories about what people had lost trying to get away from the Jehovah’s Witnesses. There were whole families that were wiped out. Not usually by shot guns but by but by the devastation of shunning and the lack of real love.
One night, a gentleman showed up to one of the meetups I was hosting. He had a very interesting story to relate.
Bob had been happy married for many years. He and his wife and children had never had been Jehovah’s Witnesses. His wife ended up having an affair at work with a married Jehovah’s Witness elder.
She divorced Bob and started studying with the Jehovah’s Witnesses. The Elder divorced his wife and married Bob’s ex-wife. Because the adulterous elder was well like in his Kingdom Hall he was reinstated in just a few months. Bob’s ex-wife gets custody of their two children, who were twelve and fourteen years old at the time she left Bob. The children of course start studying with Jehovah’s Witnesses and get baptized. Now they are one big happy Jehovah’s Witness family.
Bob is now at the meetup group looking for advice. He tells all of us there, that now when his Jehovah’s Witness children visit him they tell him how he will soon be dead if he doesn’t join the Jehovah’s Witness organization. They tell him will that he will be killed by Jehovah god in the coming war of Armageddon.
So now Bob is asking all of us what he should say to his two daughters when they visit him with their message of doom.
Oh, by the way for some odd reason Bob doesn’t want to be a Jehovah’s Witness. I guess because in essence the Witnesses tore his family away from him. Go figure.
Because of hosting the meetup group I got another story of how Jehovah’s Witnesses have effected even non-members. I got a very sad and interesting phone call from a woman one afternoon.
Beth called me to ask if there was anything she could do to stop her husband from getting re-baptized this coming Saturday. It was just a few days away.
I said. “Probably not, why?”
She had told me how she had fell in love with a man who was raised as a Jehovah’s Witness. He had been out of the organization for many years. They had many happy years together and were now married and were expecting their first child. She did have a daughter from a previous marriage. She told me how everything was wonderful, until his parents started pressuring him to going back to all the meetings.
She also told me how his parents had hated her from the beginning of their marriage, because she was a “worldly” person. His parents even went so far to encourage him to leave her, even though she was pregnant, so he could eventually get with a good Jehovah’s Witness girl. Of course, there would be no repercussions to him, since he had already been dis-fellowshipped!
She was desperate and wanted to know what she could do to stop him from rejoining this group of nasty people and their religion.
I told her it was probably too late, since he was getting baptized in just a few days. I told her this was something that had to be in the making for many months if not years.
I felt I had to tell her what she could expect now he was going back in. It was not going to be easy for her, because she had no desire to become a Jehovah’s Witness.
I had mentioned to her of possible problems and difficulties she might have to endure, now that her husband was rejoining his old church. Little did I know at the time, that she would soon be going through something that would be ten times worse than anything I could have ever imagined.
Soon Beth and her husband would be in Jehovah’s Witness Hell.
If she ever had any desire to join this church it would soon be gone forever!
Beth called me a few months later and was crying, I could barely understand her. I really didn’t know what she needed or wanted. Maybe she needed a shoulder to cry on. I told her we could meet her for a cup of coffee. What she told me that day, I had no words for.
We met a few hours later at a busy restaurant. I wish you could have seen the look of bewilderment on this poor woman’s face.
As we set there she told me about what had transpired over the last few months since we talked earlier on the phone.
She had told me that her husband had got baptized as he promised. Being re-baptized he became a Zealot once again in his old faith. He didn’t seem to be as interested her now, that he had rejoined his old family and friends. He was now spending less and less time with her, his pregnant wife.
Finally the baby came. However there was a big problem and complications at birth. It would be life or death, for the child unless the baby got a blood transfusion. She was of course in favor of this life saving option. He was definitely opposed to it.
There was many heated arguments about this. The elders and his parents got involved. His family informed her husband that he could not waver. There was no way he could give in on this matter. It was more than just a matter of life and death it was a matter of faith and service to god.
Beth and her family fought her husband to the bitter end. She said he hated her and her stance against him and his faith. This drove the wedge between them even farther.
There was no time left and a decision had to be made. For whatever reason, he hung his head in shame and told the doctors to go ahead and give the child a blood transfusion.
The elders found out who gave the order for the blood transfusion and they were furious with him. They told him there would be grave repercussions from this decision.
Two days later the child died.
The elders actually told her husband they were not surprised about the child’s death. In a sense implying this was a punishment directly from god himself. This was because he had actually disobeyed god’s commandments on this issue.
He told the elders he was wrong and blamed his “worldly wife” for the pressure she had put one him. He begged the elders, for their forgiveness.
There was nothing I could say to comfort her after that story.
Are they still together? I would doubt it.
Both these stories and more will be in my book "New Boy"
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Are we losing our way a bit at JWN?
by nicolaou infirstly, i want to be crystal clear how grateful i am for jwn.
it's been my place of support for over seventeen years and it's the first online space i direct anyone to if they are taking steps out of the cult.
i am not bashing jwn - i love this place and appreciate the hard work and expense simon puts in to keep it going.
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new boy
All I can say is I guess "free speech" is tricky stuff.
Does everyone want free speech....sure
If there true speech in our society? Not really
Is there free speech on this forum? Not really.
They have a definite set of topics that are not permitted here.
So now the question were do you draw the lines?
I'm glad it's not my job to figure this out.
I guess censorship as always is a matter of opinion.....which is all free speech is a matter of opinion.
Everyone really has the right to through up in pubic....that doesn't everyone wants to watch it.
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Has anyone started a support group for people leaving cults?
by Whynot inmy husband and i have talked about starting a support group but we feel we don't have the proper qualifications.
has anyone started a support group for ex-jws?
we even thought of hosting a social gathering or meet and greet.
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new boy
"I'm thinking of having a more laid back meet-up like the beach or happy hour maybe."
Yes that is what "meetup.com" is all about of course people should seek professional help when needed but this is just a good way to meet casually and perhaps meet new friends.
Since everyone need friends and most people who leaves the Jehovah's Witnesses losses all of theirs.....why not?
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Introduction of Chapter 1 in New Boy and inside look at the world headquarters of the Jehovah's Witnesses
by new boy inchapter 1. the pledge.
just a few blocks from the world famous brooklyn bridge there is a huge four building complex.
this prime piece of brooklyn real estate built in 1926 is located at 117 adams street.
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new boy
The entire book is at my editors, we are doing the final proof read. I hope to have it in print in 60 to 90 days.
The book will be dedicate to James Olson and the countless thousands who have taken their own lives because of their involvement with the Watchtower Bible and truck society.
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Has anyone started a support group for people leaving cults?
by Whynot inmy husband and i have talked about starting a support group but we feel we don't have the proper qualifications.
has anyone started a support group for ex-jws?
we even thought of hosting a social gathering or meet and greet.
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new boy
I hosted the Ex Jehovah's Witness Meetup group in Portland Oregon for many years. Meetup.com is and excellent way to do this.
No you don't need a PHD to want to help people who are guilt ridden or stuck between the JW world and the real world.
Everyone needs support and your experience can help a lot of people.
Meetup.com is an excellent way to organize this.
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Has anyone started a support group for people leaving cults?
by Whynot inmy husband and i have talked about starting a support group but we feel we don't have the proper qualifications.
has anyone started a support group for ex-jws?
we even thought of hosting a social gathering or meet and greet.
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Introduction of Chapter 1 in New Boy and inside look at the world headquarters of the Jehovah's Witnesses
by new boy inchapter 1. the pledge.
just a few blocks from the world famous brooklyn bridge there is a huge four building complex.
this prime piece of brooklyn real estate built in 1926 is located at 117 adams street.
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Chapter 1
The Pledge
Just a few blocks from the world famous Brooklyn Bridge there is a huge four building complex. This prime piece of Brooklyn real estate built in 1926 is located at 117 Adams Street. With amazing views of lower Manhattan, the factory complex stretched from the base of the Brooklyn Bridge to base of the Manhattan Bridge. Each of these enormous buildings occupied a full New York City block. The massive buildings are connect by sky bridges so men and materials could move from one department to the next with greater ease. This was maybe the largest printing facility in the world at the time. However whether it was or not, there was no factory the world that matched this factory total production of books and magazines that were produced there every month .Every month millions of books and magazines printed in dozens of languages and then shipped out to over two hundred counties all over the world.
This was no ordinary printing facility. Some of the many things that made this factory unique was how 90% of the workers there were between the ages of nineteen and twenty four. Another thing that made this factory unusual was the fact that everyone there from the head of the factory complex Max Larson, to the young boy that cleaned the toilets James Olson, received the say pay every day. That’s right, they were paid just 73 cents a day! That didn’t go very far in New York City even in the 1970’s.
Over the years thousands of people have come from all over the world to take a tour of this unusual factory complex.
Many people who took these tours would leave the factory, shaking their heads in disbelief. Many of the jobs that were preformed there seemed insane to any normal outsider, no matter what the pay might have been.
On top of the Adam Street building were letters three feet tall, which commanded people who were passing by to, “READ GOD’S WORD THE HOLY BIBLE DAILY.” This statement wasn’t entirely true however. Of course they wanted you read the Bible, because, they were making Bibles inside their factory. However they really didn’t want you to read just any old Bible. The only Bible they said that was approved by god was the Bible they were making there, this was The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures.
Yes, the green Bibles they produced there where the only ones they really wanted you to read on a daily bases and not all those other Bibles they say were influenced by uninspired translators.
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Joseph Rutherford = Donald Trump
by Wild_Thing ini have been rereading a lot about rutherford lately; about his personality and the kind of person he was.
i have come to the conclusion that he was a lot like donald trump.. he was an accused womanizer.. he was a narcissist with a self inflated ego.
he claimed to be persecuted by the media all the time.
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new boy
The alcoholic and self-proclaimed “Judge” Rutherford after his hostile takeover of their organization (where almost a third of their members left) also gave the date of 1925 for the end of the world. He changes their name to Jehovah's Witnesses. He eliminated all of Russel’s "pagan" influences like the pyramid and numerology. He tells his followers how Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and Moses, will appear at their conventions soon. However he doesn’t want these dead Bible characters at Bethel. He’ll put them all up three thousand miles away in San Diego California in his own mansion there. Just so no one gets suspicious about the house, Rutherford even puts their names in the deed to the house. He slams all other churches, and broadcasts hate messages against the Catholic Church and League of United Nations. He makes Prohibition the enemy, he even courted Hitler's favor. An alcoholic ego manic whack job for sure.